Waveshare USB-CAN-A Challenges

[ScottS45]

Hi,

First I would like to thank you for all your efforts for the community.

I have a Waveshare USB-Can-A that I have attached to a Xantrex XC Pro supporting RV-C. I have the latest version of VanCanSetup, as well as Helper, Gui. I have attempted to install via the command line. I do not see the Can10 in the Gui. Info from the inverter/charger does not show up in the GUI. Looking for any advice and suggestions. Below are the steps I did, plus some info asked for, that I saw in earlier posts.

Thanks Scott.

Available actions:
Install and activate (i)
Reinstall (r) based on options provided at last install
Uninstall (u) and restores all files to stock
Quit (q) without further action
Display log (l) outputs the last 100 lines of the log

Choose an action from the list above: i

CANbus interface definitions:
interface: ( can10 ) custom GS USB
Xantrex XC Pro (can10) 1a86:7523

Choose a device type for can10 from the list above (by number) (cr for no change): 3

creating custom device

usb 1-1.1: New USB device found, idVendor=1a86, idProduct=7523, bcdDevice= 2.64
usb 1-1.1: Product: USB Serial
select this device for can10 (y/n)?: y
enter optional name for can10 (cr for none): Xantrex XC Pro
enter serial number manually (cr for none):
can10 configuration updated

CANbus interface definitions:
interface: ( can10 ) custom GS USB
Xantrex XC Pro (can10) 1a86:7523

Available actions:
Add a USB interface (a )
Delete existing interface (d )
blank line if done with changes

interface may optionally be added to the action, (e.g. a hat or d 11)
USB interface must be 10 or greater
Hat interface should be entered as 'h' or 'hat'

Choose action from list above:
installing CANbus ports
removing scripts from old version of VeCanSetup
adding udev rules for can10
updating VeCanSetup udev rules
installing spi1-1cs overlay

new interfaces will not become active until after a reboot
Reboot system now (y) or do it manually later (n): y
rebooting ...

[ScottS45]

After the reboot I

root@raspberrypi4:~# ip link
1: lo: <LOOPBACK,UP,LOWER_UP> mtu 65536 qdisc noqueue state UNKNOWN mode DEFAULT group default qlen 1000
link/loopback 00:00:00:00:00:00 brd 00:00:00:00:00:00
2: eth0: <NO-CARRIER,BROADCAST,MULTICAST,DYNAMIC,UP> mtu 1450 qdisc mq state DOWN mode DEFAULT group default qlen 1000
link/ether d8:3a:dd:2d:96:d8 brd ff:ff:ff:ff:ff:ff
3: sit0@NONE: mtu 1480 qdisc noop state DOWN mode DEFAULT group default qlen 1000
link/sit 0.0.0.0 brd 0.0.0.0
4: wlan0: <BROADCAST,MULTICAST,DYNAMIC,UP,LOWER_UP> mtu 1450 qdisc pfifo_fast state UP mode DORMANT group default qlen 1000
link/ether d8:3a:dd:2d:96:d9 brd ff:ff:ff:ff:ff:ff
5: ll-eth0@eth0: <NO-CARRIER,BROADCAST,MULTICAST,UP> mtu 1450 qdisc noqueue state LOWERLAYERDOWN mode DEFAULT group default qlen 1000
link/ether 92:ee:62:39:8b:d8 brd ff:ff:ff:ff:ff:ff

I do not see Can 10 in GUI, I assume it should show up under Services.

root@raspberrypi4:/etc/udev# cat rules.d/VeCanSetup.rules

udev rules for gs USB devices

replace ...PH (place holder) with actual values
DELETE the placeholder lines if they aren't used !!
rename file to e.g., can0.rules

ACTION=="add", SUBSYSTEM=="net",
ENV{ID_VENDOR_ID}=="1a86",
ENV{ID_MODEL_ID}=="7523",
NAME="can10",
ENV{VE_NAME}="Xantrex XC Pro (can10)",
RUN+="/usr/local/bin/startGsUsbCan.sh can10"
RUN+="/usr/bin/logger [udev] CANbus device added:
Xantrex XC Pro (can10)
can10
1a86
7523
"

  SetupHelper now logged to /var/log/PackageManager/current

root@raspberrypi4:/etc/udev# cat /var/log/PackageManager/current
@4000000066eb623f35222e34 WARNING:>>>> PackageManager v8.20 starting
@4000000066eb62491f6dbcfc WARNING:starting boot-time reinstall
@4000000066eb62501e5a06f4 WARNING:boot-time reinstall complete
@4000000066eb625021561c6c WARNING:checking SetupHelper
@4000000066eb62512a9f04b4 SetupHelper/setup: --- starting setup script v8.20 action: CHECK
@4000000066eb625722c4c79c WARNING:checking GuiMods
@4000000066eb6258086cb724 GuiMods/setup: --- starting setup script v10.66 action: CHECK
@4000000066eb625b212f75e4 GuiMods/setup: WARNING: styles.css no active file for patch - skipping
@4000000066eb625b2da8e184 WARNING:checking ShutdownMonitor
@4000000066eb625c18222f3c ShutdownMonitor/setup: --- starting setup script v3.6 action: CHECK
@4000000066eb625c35efc31c WARNING:checking RpiGpioSetup
@4000000066eb625d176dcf74 RpiGpioSetup/setup: --- starting setup script v4.10 action: CHECK
@4000000066eb625d38930e1c WARNING:checking RpiDisplaySetup
@4000000066eb625e1ba3b8c4 RpiDisplaySetup/setup: --- starting setup script v3.13 action: CHECK
@4000000066eb625e2d02b674 WARNING:checking VeCanSetup
@4000000066eb625f0c34b3d4 VeCanSetup/setup: --- starting setup script v3.14 action: CHECK
@4000000066eb626001c4c81c WARNING:checking RpiTemperature
@4000000066eb626021d18a14 RpiTemperature/setup: --- starting setup script v1.2 action: CHECK
@4000000066eb63340c8836bc VeCanSetup/setup: --- starting setup script v3.14 action: NONE
@4000000066eb64602c68a8f4 VeCanSetup/setup: --- starting setup script v3.14 action: NONE
@4000000066eb64bd23ec4bf4 VeCanSetup/setup: can10 configuration updated
@4000000066eb64cc39d2c9ac VeCanSetup/setup: installing CANbus ports
@4000000066eb64cd017b99bc VeCanSetup/setup: removing scripts from old version of VeCanSetup
@4000000066eb64cd06a70a84 VeCanSetup/setup: adding udev rules for can10
@4000000066eb64cd07b24c7c VeCanSetup/setup: updating VeCanSetup udev rules
@4000000066eb64cd0da2de1c VeCanSetup/setup: installing spi1-1cs overlay
@4000000066eb64f636c13834 VeCanSetup/setup: rebooting ...
@4000000066eb64ff321138fc SetupHelper/reinstallMods: reinstallMods starting
@4000000066eb64ff3528d16c SetupHelper/reinstallMods: reinstallMods finished
@4000000066eb650122ae74c4 *** CCGX booted (0) ***
@4000000066eb650a29f1f404 WARNING:>>>> PackageManager v8.20 starting
@4000000066eb65243493ccfc WARNING:starting boot-time reinstall
@4000000066eb652b329b6414 WARNING:boot-time reinstall complete
@4000000066eb652b34686f6c WARNING:checking SetupHelper
@4000000066eb652c27a37bdc SetupHelper/setup: --- starting setup script v8.20 action: CHECK
@4000000066eb6532380e3a34 WARNING:checking GuiMods
@4000000066eb6533202c88bc GuiMods/setup: --- starting setup script v10.66 action: CHECK
@4000000066eb6537174d56f4 GuiMods/setup: WARNING: styles.css no active file for patch - skipping
@4000000066eb6537312fcdf4 WARNING:checking ShutdownMonitor
@4000000066eb653823285bcc ShutdownMonitor/setup: --- starting setup script v3.6 action: CHECK
@4000000066eb653903623fc4 WARNING:checking RpiGpioSetup
@4000000066eb6539258650cc RpiGpioSetup/setup: --- starting setup script v4.10 action: CHECK
@4000000066eb653a0927a69c WARNING:checking RpiDisplaySetup
@4000000066eb653a2d9d9acc RpiDisplaySetup/setup: --- starting setup script v3.13 action: CHECK
@4000000066eb653b0f972c3c WARNING:checking VeCanSetup
@4000000066eb653b3ab70374 VeCanSetup/setup: --- starting setup script v3.14 action: CHECK
@4000000066eb653c1800dbfc WARNING:checking RpiTemperature
@4000000066eb653d05546334 RpiTemperature/setup: --- starting setup script v1.2 action: CHECK
@4000000066eb66da18978e1c VeCanSetup/setup: --- starting setup script v3.14 action: NONE
@4000000066eb66fd24dfef0c VeCanSetup/setup: can10 configuration updated
@4000000066eb674532b9e0c4 SetupHelper/reinstallMods: reinstallMods starting
@4000000066eb674535ca5514 SetupHelper/reinstallMods: reinstallMods finished
@4000000066eb674725dfd2dc *** CCGX booted (0) ***
@4000000066eb67500de169d4 WARNING:>>>> PackageManager v8.20 starting
@4000000066eb67590faa3354 WARNING:starting boot-time reinstall
@4000000066eb67600f4d231c WARNING:boot-time reinstall complete
@4000000066eb676016d0f71c WARNING:checking SetupHelper
@4000000066eb676115fc7c94 SetupHelper/setup: --- starting setup script v8.20 action: CHECK
@4000000066eb676713a7e604 WARNING:checking GuiMods
@4000000066eb67673352447c GuiMods/setup: --- starting setup script v10.66 action: CHECK
@4000000066eb676a1e508174 GuiMods/setup: WARNING: styles.css no active file for patch - skipping
@4000000066eb676a2b843c64 WARNING:checking ShutdownMonitor
@4000000066eb676b10a010bc ShutdownMonitor/setup: --- starting setup script v3.6 action: CHECK
@4000000066eb676b2bdf02ac WARNING:checking RpiGpioSetup
@4000000066eb676c16582184 RpiGpioSetup/setup: --- starting setup script v4.10 action: CHECK
@4000000066eb676c2e757884 WARNING:checking RpiDisplaySetup
@4000000066eb676d15227814 RpiDisplaySetup/setup: --- starting setup script v3.13 action: CHECK
@4000000066eb676d23017aac WARNING:checking VeCanSetup
@4000000066eb676e05b5b92c VeCanSetup/setup: --- starting setup script v3.14 action: CHECK
@4000000066eb676e198d7b24 WARNING:checking RpiTemperature
@4000000066eb676e38e97734 RpiTemperature/setup: --- starting setup script v1.2 action: CHECK
@4000000066eb68621b6c3da4 VeCanSetup/setup: --- starting setup script v3.14 action: NONE
@4000000066eb688a07f646d4 VeCanSetup/setup: can10 configuration updated
@4000000066eb68a6350da84c VeCanSetup/setup: can10 configuration updated
@4000000066eb690c0bf9a2bc VeCanSetup/setup: deleting can10
@4000000066eb69590dd269fc VeCanSetup/setup: installing CANbus ports
@4000000066eb69591123f65c VeCanSetup/setup: removing scripts from old version of VeCanSetup
@4000000066eb695915c0cf3c VeCanSetup/setup: removing VeCanSetup udev rules
@4000000066eb69591a95bb94 VeCanSetup/setup: installing spi1-1cs overlay
@4000000066eb695e11490a8c VeCanSetup/setup: rebooting ...
@4000000066eb69663227e1c4 SetupHelper/reinstallMods: reinstallMods starting
@4000000066eb69663533ba64 SetupHelper/reinstallMods: reinstallMods finished
@4000000066eb69682da641a4 *** CCGX booted (0) ***
@4000000066eb697114921724 WARNING:>>>> PackageManager v8.20 starting
@4000000066eb697b218cf37c WARNING:starting boot-time reinstall
@4000000066eb69821e682054 WARNING:boot-time reinstall complete
@4000000066eb69821f828164 WARNING:checking SetupHelper
@4000000066eb698322e9eb6c SetupHelper/setup: --- starting setup script v8.20 action: CHECK
@4000000066eb698a231986ec WARNING:checking GuiMods
@4000000066eb698b0762ffb4 GuiMods/setup: --- starting setup script v10.66 action: CHECK
@4000000066eb698d22dccff4 GuiMods/setup: WARNING: styles.css no active file for patch - skipping
@4000000066eb698d2f9501e4 WARNING:checking ShutdownMonitor
@4000000066eb698e1633b934 ShutdownMonitor/setup: --- starting setup script v3.6 action: CHECK
@4000000066eb698f04a9041c WARNING:checking RpiGpioSetup
@4000000066eb698f26bb850c RpiGpioSetup/setup: --- starting setup script v4.10 action: CHECK
@4000000066eb699006d7b774 WARNING:checking RpiDisplaySetup
@4000000066eb69902917f754 RpiDisplaySetup/setup: --- starting setup script v3.13 action: CHECK
@4000000066eb6990397d23e4 WARNING:checking VeCanSetup
@4000000066eb699120cceb54 VeCanSetup/setup: --- starting setup script v3.14 action: CHECK
@4000000066eb6991334bd40c WARNING:checking RpiTemperature
@4000000066eb699212508b94 RpiTemperature/setup: --- starting setup script v1.2 action: CHECK
@4000000066eb69d1180446fc VeCanSetup/setup: --- starting setup script v3.14 action: NONE
@4000000066eb6cfc3a4f8744 VeCanSetup/setup: can10 configuration updated
@4000000066eb6d331c3f412c VeCanSetup/setup: installing CANbus ports
@4000000066eb6d331f8f52a4 VeCanSetup/setup: removing scripts from old version of VeCanSetup
@4000000066eb6d332529c94c VeCanSetup/setup: adding udev rules for can10
@4000000066eb6d33264b0c14 VeCanSetup/setup: updating VeCanSetup udev rules
@4000000066eb6d332c510dfc VeCanSetup/setup: installing spi1-1cs overlay
@4000000066eb6d380ef9d6e4 VeCanSetup/setup: rebooting ...
@4000000066eb6d4032ac4464 SetupHelper/reinstallMods: reinstallMods starting
@4000000066eb6d4035d7c294 SetupHelper/reinstallMods: reinstallMods finished
@4000000066eb6d4222a41c54 *** CCGX booted (0) ***
@4000000066eb6d4b2e44b03c WARNING:>>>> PackageManager v8.20 starting
@4000000066eb6d6829ce7614 WARNING:starting boot-time reinstall
@4000000066eb6d6f2b43dbec WARNING:boot-time reinstall complete
@4000000066eb6d6f2d86f9d4 WARNING:checking SetupHelper
@4000000066eb6d70310f0754 SetupHelper/setup: --- starting setup script v8.20 action: CHECK
@4000000066eb6d76313f9cd4 WARNING:checking GuiMods
@4000000066eb6d77200d585c GuiMods/setup: --- starting setup script v10.66 action: CHECK
@4000000066eb6d7a00b19eb4 GuiMods/setup: WARNING: styles.css no active file for patch - skipping
@4000000066eb6d7a0927c1f4 WARNING:checking ShutdownMonitor
@4000000066eb6d7a322cc7ac ShutdownMonitor/setup: --- starting setup script v3.6 action: CHECK
@4000000066eb6d7b11176f54 WARNING:checking RpiGpioSetup
@4000000066eb6d7b378ec164 RpiGpioSetup/setup: --- starting setup script v4.10 action: CHECK
@4000000066eb6d7c1a18a80c WARNING:checking RpiDisplaySetup
@4000000066eb6d7d010b2c7c RpiDisplaySetup/setup: --- starting setup script v3.13 action: CHECK
@4000000066eb6d7d0f42e21c WARNING:checking VeCanSetup
@4000000066eb6d7d2b047d44 VeCanSetup/setup: --- starting setup script v3.14 action: CHECK
@4000000066eb6d7e063410ec WARNING:checking RpiTemperature
@4000000066eb6d7e26ae8cbc RpiTemperature/setup: --- starting setup script v1.2 action: CHECK
@4000000066eb70163294cc94 SetupHelper/reinstallMods: reinstallMods starting
@4000000066eb701635c63e34 SetupHelper/reinstallMods: reinstallMods finished
@4000000066eb701821470524 *** CCGX booted (0) ***
@4000000066eb70203571a9dc WARNING:>>>> PackageManager v8.20 starting
@4000000066eb702a200f9694 WARNING:starting boot-time reinstall
@4000000066eb703120a62974 WARNING:boot-time reinstall complete
@4000000066eb703123727c5c WARNING:checking SetupHelper
@4000000066eb70321e3b9dcc SetupHelper/setup: --- starting setup script v8.20 action: CHECK
@4000000066eb70382ad2650c WARNING:checking GuiMods
@4000000066eb70390ce5e71c GuiMods/setup: --- starting setup script v10.66 action: CHECK
@4000000066eb703c125db2c4 GuiMods/setup: WARNING: styles.css no active file for patch - skipping
@4000000066eb703c1a879294 WARNING:checking ShutdownMonitor
@4000000066eb703d05d56e5c ShutdownMonitor/setup: --- starting setup script v3.6 action: CHECK
@4000000066eb703d1cac0cbc WARNING:checking RpiGpioSetup
@4000000066eb703e02cc02d4 RpiGpioSetup/setup: --- starting setup script v4.10 action: CHECK
@4000000066eb703e1a85b9ec WARNING:checking RpiDisplaySetup
@4000000066eb703f03f96ee4 RpiDisplaySetup/setup: --- starting setup script v3.13 action: CHECK
@4000000066eb703f116112e4 WARNING:checking VeCanSetup
@4000000066eb703f322fe874 VeCanSetup/setup: --- starting setup script v3.14 action: CHECK
@4000000066eb7040084d157c WARNING:checking RpiTemperature
@4000000066eb704028ef54fc RpiTemperature/setup: --- starting setup script v1.2 action: CHECK
@4000000066ef112c14863044 VeCanSetup/setup: --- starting setup script v3.14 action: NONE
@4000000066ef11593acb9514 VeCanSetup/setup: --- starting setup script v3.14 action: NONE
@4000000066ef118c1d3b96d4 VeCanSetup/setup: deleting can10
@4000000066ef11c31ee1922c VeCanSetup/setup: can10 configuration updated
@4000000066ef12031cc27ed4 VeCanSetup/setup: installing CANbus ports
@4000000066ef12032017724c VeCanSetup/setup: removing scripts from old version of VeCanSetup
@4000000066ef12032573b32c VeCanSetup/setup: adding udev rules for can10
@4000000066ef120326a64b74 VeCanSetup/setup: updating VeCanSetup udev rules
@4000000066ef12032c5f8904 VeCanSetup/setup: installing spi1-1cs overlay
@4000000066ef122828e3b854 VeCanSetup/setup: rebooting ...
@4000000066ef1230329011a4 SetupHelper/reinstallMods: reinstallMods starting
@4000000066ef123035bd510c SetupHelper/reinstallMods: reinstallMods finished
@4000000066ef12322286a944 *** CCGX booted (0) ***
@4000000066ef123b0298b21c WARNING:>>>> PackageManager v8.20 starting
@4000000066ef124506fe88f4 WARNING:starting boot-time reinstall
@4000000066ef124c086237a4 WARNING:boot-time reinstall complete
@4000000066ef124c0bcd0cac WARNING:checking SetupHelper
@4000000066ef124c31c9431c SetupHelper/setup: --- starting setup script v8.20 action: CHECK
@4000000066ef12530ce35eac WARNING:checking GuiMods
@4000000066ef1253311bf3ec GuiMods/setup: --- starting setup script v10.66 action: CHECK
@4000000066ef1256344e8a84 GuiMods/setup: WARNING: styles.css no active file for patch - skipping
@4000000066ef12570b99a484 WARNING:checking ShutdownMonitor
@4000000066ef125732d41f84 ShutdownMonitor/setup: --- starting setup script v3.6 action: CHECK
@4000000066ef1258163fbf54 WARNING:checking RpiGpioSetup
@4000000066ef1259010c8054 RpiGpioSetup/setup: --- starting setup script v4.10 action: CHECK
@4000000066ef12591ce9e0dc WARNING:checking RpiDisplaySetup
@4000000066ef125a05f9fdbc RpiDisplaySetup/setup: --- starting setup script v3.13 action: CHECK
@4000000066ef125a162b396c WARNING:checking VeCanSetup
@4000000066ef125a31a37b3c VeCanSetup/setup: --- starting setup script v3.14 action: CHECK
@4000000066ef125b060d04d4 WARNING:checking RpiTemperature
@4000000066ef125b20afc27c RpiTemperature/setup: --- starting setup script v1.2 action: CHECK

[kwindrem]

There are two common interface protocols for CANbus USB interfaces. The preferred is GS USB and works well with Victron firmware. The other is slcan. Victron has reported issues with dropped packets with slcan interfaces and they are not recommended but work OK in situations where devices send regular updates making a dropped packet less problematic.

It appears that the Waveshare USB-Can-A device uses neither of these protocols. That is most likely why it is not showing up in the services menu.

[ScottS45]

Do you have a suggestion(s) on CAN to USB adapter that supports either of those??

[kwindrem]

I have only tested the CANable device.
https://canable.io
This comes with slcan firmware installed but can be easily refreshed to GS USB (Candlelight)

Other devices are listed on the Victron web site. Sorry, don't have a current link because things have moved around since I last looked.

[ScottS45]

Thanks for your assistance!

[ScottS45]

I picked up a CANable (https://www.amazon.ca/dp/B0CRB8KXWL) unit with candlelight and it shows up under ip link and as a service in VenusOS. No info is showing in the GUI yet. Though under network it only shows 3 packets for TX vs 29 for RX. State is Error-Passive. That has me wonder if the work mode needs to changed?

[kwindrem]

That depends on what is connected to the device. I'd say of you are seeing it in the services menu then you are good to go. The error-Passive is the normal (non error state).

[ScottS45]

It is a Xantrex XC 3000 Inverter/Charger. It was on, though the status in the GUI did not reflect that or when it was pulling a load. That has me thinking I am missing something still.

[kwindrem]

I do not think Xantrex inverter/chargers will show in the Victron GX device.

[ScottS45]

I do not think Xantrex inverter/chargers will show in the Victron GX device.

Are you aware of someone or a repo, that has done a driver for a device over RV-C ? I am looking for something I can have a look at and see if I can modify it for the Xantrex. I have found a doc from them for the DN names supported.

[kwindrem]

Sorry, I don't know of any third party mods to support Xantrex inverter/chargers.

[ScottS45]

It does not need to be for them, but for any device. I am a software dev, and was going to look at creating my own code to support it in VenusOS. Just was looking for a starting point.