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[Proposal] Merge of Tur into the Ur #1486

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tallero opened this issue Feb 4, 2025 · 1 comment
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[Proposal] Merge of Tur into the Ur #1486

tallero opened this issue Feb 4, 2025 · 1 comment

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tallero commented Feb 4, 2025

Hello,

I'm the author of the Ur, the User Repository, which is more or less a decentralized, mathematically proved uncensorable, unstoppable, cross-platform, source unified AUR successor and evolution. Before working on it I've been an Arch Linux maintainer for more than a decade (I've also contributed recipes to Msys2/MinGW, Alpine, PostMarketOS, Flathub, Ubuntu Touch) and I've been working on it for the past 3-4 years.

Oh, and it's also a network-independent app store on which you can sell paid build recipes and be paid for your maintainership work and the default package manager for DogeOS.

So, it still hasnt happened actually as far as I remember, but I suppose at some point down the line your work might probably become redundant with work published on the Ur. Since devices using the Ur already have access to the Tur repository, on the opposite on the Ur there are packages which still haven't reached the Tur, like I don't know, two years ago I packaged meld, daty and a huge chunk of the Python tree. Also work has been done to unify and integrate the Debian style and the Archlinux-style nomenclatures, so Ur packages are compatible with both. The same at some point will be done for Alpine as well probably.

Since you know, I hate to witness developers waste their precious time, I was wondering if it wasnt appropriate for the Tur developers to stop maintaining termux-specific patches and code and directly maintain and support the Ur recipes, which seamlessly build both on desktop computers and environments like termux, mingw and others through various extensions of the archlinux build tools.

Also you know, so to avoid any chance of censorship, guarantee maintainers autonomy and independence, offer users a more secure system and also you know, paying maintainers for their invaluable work.

So concretely, I'm proposing to merge the Tur into the Ur.

Right now there are around 800 applications published on the Ur and its http binary fallback, the Fur, none of which are present in the Tur as far as I am aware, including many cross-platform extensions of GNU/Linux specific tools written to guarantee a seamless experience, like I don't know, hotnamectl, bbrightnessctl, displayctl as well as other user-facing, hardware-related utilities, the whole Ethereum-compatible networks SDK and the distributed file system I had to write to accomplish all of this.

Of course I've already proposed the same to Arch Linux developers, but you know, their answer instead has been to throw me out from the project, say they want everybody to duplicate each other work's all the time and they don't anybody to get paid for free software work, as if free meant gratis and not libre. Frankly don't ask me why they reacted like that because I objectively don't know, over time I've concluded there must be somebody paying them under the table to kill the project or something similar to that because it was a too much irrational behavior.
Of course I hope we can instead have a better relationship, same as I have with everybody else I've mentioned and in particular with Termux developers.

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tallero commented Feb 4, 2025

Oh, I've forgotten to say the Ur also manages installing and updating Android applications and the Termux application itself.

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